It's a hard journey to get into an anchorcy, and especially for a person of color.

So when I was aware that my dad was diagnosed, I was like, I need to be there for him, and how can I do that?

Because my dad had fought for me.

So there's no way I wasn't going to fight for him, bottom line.

Welcome to Kelly Corgan Wonders.

I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today I'm wondering about self-ishness versus self-lessness and about the role that caregiving and grieving and grieving play in our development.

My guest is a news anchor and a journalist and an author

named Richard Louis, who talks about making the grueling decision to go part-time at work so he

could fly across the country every week to care for his aging father. Later in today's episode,

I'll be joined by a professor. His name is George Bonano. He's an

incredible researcher, and he's going to help us look at trauma and grief in ways that are

much more closely tied to the actual data and the actual research rather than the many

surprisingly common misconceptions about trauma and grief.

All right, let's start with Richard.

Estimates are that about every 15 minutes, we make a decision.

And that decision often involves a choice of who to put first, ourselves or someone else. The culture and business of

self is thriving. Richard Louis is a news anchor and a journalist whose life has asked him to

repeatedly consider the ping-ponging we all do between acts of selfishness and acts of selflessness.

Eight years ago, he started flying cross-country

weekly to take care of his father, a pastor named Stephen, who had Alzheimer's. He is one of many,

which brings me to the mother of all demographic truths. 53 million Americans need support.

And if you ask him, caring for them, is both a duty and a privilege with many benefits.

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