All right, Jeffrey, here we are podcast styles. Kind of interesting having the microphone here, a little bit different, doing this in the podcast form. But you've been watching these hearings, too. We were both inside the hearing yesterday. What were your thoughts?

I think Robert Kennedy Jr. showed eloquence, poise, given the situation he was in.

And I think he, like he ran on his ticket for president, he took opportunities for low-level

conversations and tried to up-level them for the betterment of really the American people.

So I thought that was really great.

And the other thing I saw was the mudslingers.

We all knew what we were talking about.

We saw them in the clip there.

The people that were basically trying to make a point using appeals to fear, appeals

to authority.

They were doing this with basically to get sound bites, but they had little substance

behind their talking points.

I talked to parents who were there.

I talked to parents who were also not there watching it on TV.

And they also say the same thing. They're sick of it. And it seems like the spell has been broken.

It seems like that paradigm, that old paradigm of these attacking talking points with little substance.

People want depth. People want change. And it was really something because not one person said, you know what? That Elizabeth Warren, that Bernie Sanders has a really great point there. I didn't hear anything. I heard people actually wanting to turn off the TV or walk out of the hearing because they didn't want to see it. But I thought it was interesting because you, you heard, you heard some of the senators,

you need to recant. You know, a lot of people say, uh, the vaccine safety space when it comes

to the mainstream established medical community is, is almost like a religion. And they were,

it sounded like the crusades. You need to recant from what you said before. Before you enter our

order, you need to, you need to bow down the knee and recant and say, you were sorry for what

you said against our religious pact. Yes, wild. Yeah. Yeah. Really. Yeah. Yeah. I'm holding the

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