Ellis, if someone had never heard of our podcast before, how would you describe it?

Initially, I would sympathise, and I would say, I feel so sorry for you. You've missed out on so much

great content. And Alice, if someone had never heard our weekly BBC Sounds Only episode

Soundsbites, how would you describe that? Have you ever seen the Northern Lights?

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This is Five Live Boxing.

When you have a massive fight on a Saturday night, the best thing you can do on a Sunday is invite round one of your closest friends, a former world champion and the top analyst.

And stick, a chicken, organic, always cut into eight parts into the oven with some spuds gently round it and some lovely stop.

Get a great fire going.

That way you're going to talk about great fights and trust me, Derek Dillboy Chazora

against Otto Valin was a great fight. I'm Steve Bunce and this is a very special five live boxing.

So I expected it to be a bit of fun.

I expected a few laughs.

I expected Del Boy to do what Del Boy's been doing for the last 19 years that he's been a professional.

Throw loads of punches, maybe getting someone's face and even narrowly lose or

narrowly win. What I didn't expect is what I've got. It was just full of emotion, raw emotion,

and Richie Woodall was there. And I could just hear, Richie was doing the commentary. I was

T&T in the studio, Richie was ringside.

And I could just hear in your voice, Rich, how much you were enjoying Derek Delboy Chisorres,

49th and last ever fight on British soil. Did you have any idea we were going to get 12, 13,000

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