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Demis Hassabis on AI, Game Theory, Multimodality, and the Nature of Creativity | Possible

Pivot

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🗓️ 12 April 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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How can AI help us understand and master deeply complex systems—from the game Go, which has 10 to the power 170 possible positions a player could pursue, or proteins, which, on average, can fold in 10 to the power 300 possible ways? This week, Reid and Aria are joined by Demis Hassabis. Demis is a British artificial intelligence researcher, co-founder, and CEO of the AI company, DeepMind. Under his leadership, DeepMind developed Alpha Go, the first AI to defeat a human world champion in Go and later created AlphaFold, which solved the 50-year-old protein folding problem. He's considered one of the most influential figures in AI. Demis, Reid, and Aria discuss game theory, medicine, multimodality, and the nature of innovation and creativity. For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/  Listen to more from Possible here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kera Swisher,

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and today we're sharing an episode of Possible hosted by one of our recent guests, Reid Hoffman.

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Join Reed and his co-host,

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Aria Finger, as they sit down with a co-founder and CEO of Google Deep Mind Demas Hussibus,

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one of the most influential figures in AI. They'll dive into game theory, medicine,

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multi-modality, the nature of innovation, and how board games and video games shape our understanding of the future of AI. Enjoy the episode and remember you can find it and subscribe to possible wherever you

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