Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, March 16th, 2020 and I'm the host of the show

Kara Santa Maria and this week we have a great episode but before we dive into that I want to thank those of you who keep talk nerdy chugging along.

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All right guys, so this week is a really great one because I have the opportunity

to sit down with Dr. Ramesh Sri

Vassen. He's a professor of information studies

and design media arts at UCLA, and his newest book

is Beyond the Valley, how innovators around the world are overcoming inequality

and creating the technologies of tomorrow. You may remember several years ago

when Rameh and I had a chat. Here is a new conversation, I think, for a newer world,

and you'll learn all about his newest book beyond the valley. So without any further ado,

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