All right, welcome back to the Carl Jackson show, guys.

I am joined by my guest now.

John R. Lott, Jr.

You guys know more, more guns, less crime.

He's the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.

He served as senior advisor for research and statistics in the Office of the of justice programs and the office of legal

policy at the justice department. And John, correct me if I'm wrong, you're an economist by

training. Are you not? Yeah. I have a PhD. Okay. Okay. All right. And I always want to remember

that. But when it comes to stats, I mean, John is the guy to go to. Make sure you check out his website, Crime Prevention Research.org. Here's the reason. I'm sorry, crime research. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So this is this is why I brought John on today. He's pinned a column. It was in on the Federalist. And I want to talk about it because he wrote about how contrary to media claims, deporting illegal alien criminals will save taxpayers more than it costs. And that is the title of the piece. And John, it's always,

it's baffling to me that the left and the Biden administration has allowed over 10 million

illegal aliens to come into the country since his presidency began. And they weren't worried

about costs, but all of a sudden, the left is worried about the cost of deporting, deporting illegals.

It seems kind of strange to me.

Right.

I mean, I guess the thing that just kind of amazes me a little bit is just how uncritically the media repeats numbers that are put out there by different interest groups.

One that's been getting a lot of attention is by the American Immigration Council,

a group that's kind of on the left part of the spectrum,

but they're claiming that it costs $88,000 per deportee that you're going to be deporting.

And, you know, the assumptions that they make are ludicrous.

So three quarters of that cost $66,000 out of each $88,000 is what they call the cost of

detention,

you know, actually going and housing somebody while you're waiting for them to get deported.

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