DEVGRU | SEAL Teams One and Two | Contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan | Tier One Tactical | Chris White
Combat Story
Ryan Fugit
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🗓️ 22 July 2023
⏱️ 149 minutes
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Today we hear the Combat Story of former Navy SEAL and Naval Special Warfare Development Group (or DEVGRU) operator Chris White. Chris spent two decades in the Teams pre-9/11 and was in the first wave of contractors fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq with Blackwater and similar companies early in the war.
Chris hasn’t shared his story previously and did so, in part, to set the record straight on the experience of contractors in the post-9/11 era who had often been painted in a particularly negative way by the media.
Chris now operates Tier One Tactical where he delivers expert training to people, particularly those in law enforcement, in shooting and tactical engagements.
I hope you enjoy this wide ranging and insightful look at Chris’ experiences in both the elite levels of the Navy’s Special Operations community and his experience as a contractor in some incredibly challenging fighting, as much as I did.
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Show Notes:
00:00 - Intro
00:52 - Guest Introduction (Chris White)
01:45 - Interview begins
02:14 - Learnings from battles
10:00 - Fight, Flight, or Freeze
15:37 - UDT days
18:13 - Childhood and path to the Military
21:24 - DeleteME
22:29 - Deliniation between Navy and Teams
26:53 - Deciding to join the Military
29:43 - Being molded by the Military
32:03 - Friends at BUDS
36:29 - Route to DEVGRU
41:23 - Callsign White Boy
43:15 - Rocket Money
44:08 - Chris's strengths
47:43 - Chris's weaknesses
49:27 - Army Navy game
55:29 - Honor of the Fu-manchu
53:34 - Future after 20 years
01:03:53 - Hello Fresh
01:05:11 - Being in Bahrain during 9/11
01:07:08 - First mission after 9/11
01:15:29 - A hairy situation
01:30:28 - Transition to Blackwater
01:45:08 - Upside of being a Contractor
02:24:13 - Sentimental Items
02:25:33 - Do it all again
02:26:13 - Final comments
02:27:41 - Listeners comments and shout outs
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | And as I'm running across this parking lot, I get about 10 yards into it and I see this |
| 0:06.9 | flash to my right and I instantly know before I even look, I know exactly what it is and |
| 0:13.7 | it's the launch motor of an RPG 7. |
| 0:16.6 | And as I look, I cannot accelerate fast enough to outrun an RPG 7. |
| 0:22.8 | That thing goes buzzing over my head about 25 meters above me, impacts into this concrete |
| 0:27.7 | wall about 30 meters to my left and, uh, yeah, those things, that's enough to knock |
| 0:33.1 | feelings out of your head. |
| 0:34.6 | Welcome to Combat Story. |
| 0:35.8 | I'm Ryan Fugid and I serve Warzone Tourers as an Army attack helicopter pilot and CIA |
| 0:40.0 | officer over a 15 year career. |
| 0:42.4 | I'm fascinated by the experiences of the elite in combat. |
| 0:46.0 | On this show, I interview some of the best to understand what combat felt like on their |
| 0:50.1 | frontlines. |
| 0:51.4 | This is Combat Story. |
| 0:53.4 | Today we hear the combat story of former Navy SEAL and Naval Special Warfare development |
| 0:57.6 | group or dev crew operator Chris White. |
| 1:00.3 | Chris spent two decades in the team's pre-9-11, it was in the first wave of contractors fighting |
| 1:06.0 | in Afghanistan and Iraq with black water and similar companies early in the war. |
| 1:10.7 | Chris hasn't shared a story previously and did so in part to set the record straight |
| 1:15.0 | on the experience of contractors in the post-9-11 era who had often been painted in a particularly |
| 1:20.3 | negative way by the media. |
| 1:22.0 | Chris now operates Tier 1 tactical where delivers expert training to people, particularly those |
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