"Devil in the Family: The Fall of Ruby Franke" with Criminal Psychologist Dr. John Matthias
Hidden: A True Crime Podcast
Hidden True Crime
4.8 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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In this episode, Lauren and Dr. John discuss the new docu-series "Devil in the Family: The Fall of Ruby Franke."
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Lauren Matthias, a former television reporter, and her husband Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.
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| 1:01.6 | Devil and the Family, the fall of Ruby Frankie? Because John and I sure did last night. We |
| 1:08.1 | watched all three episodes. It's a docu-series. And wow, we've been covering this case since the beginning. A never before seen home video, finally seeing Jody in a trance for me personally. |
| 1:30.0 | I don't know about anyone else out there, |
| 1:31.3 | but that was my wildest moment for me is actually seeing these alleged trances that we've |
| 1:36.9 | heard about in trances. |
| 1:39.0 | I'll say trance with a quote symbol because I'll give you a little I think they're complete manipulation |
| 1:46.3 | but we'll ask Dr. John because we have a psychologist here with us. |
| 1:51.7 | My co-host, Hidden True Crimes co-host, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal and forensic psychologist |
| 1:58.2 | and you have been assessing Jody Hildebrandt and Ruby Frankie from the |
| 2:02.9 | very beginning helping us process how this happened, who is who, why this happened. And of course, |
| 2:09.4 | because of the Frankie family, Kevin coming forward, the children, the adult children coming |
| 2:15.5 | forward. And by adult children, I mean Sherry and Chad, |
| 2:19.2 | we were able to get a deeper, more inside look on the dynamics going on inside the home |
| 2:26.2 | before and after Jody entered their lives. And yes, there were a lot of new snippets. So we're going to get into a lot. But in a hidden true |
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