Quick programming note, before this episode starts, I got asked if people need to hear the recent SIF episode about insulin in order to understand this episode about diabetes. No, you do not. They totally stand on their own. Or you can go back to April and hear that insulin show first. Either way, enjoy.

Diabetes, known for being a condition.

Famous for being two types of conditions.

Nobody who does not have diabetes thinks much about it.

So let's have some fun.

Let's find out why diabetes is secretly incredibly fascinating.

Music incredibly fascinating.

Hey there, folks. Welcome to a whole new podcast episode, our podcast all about why being alive is more interesting than people think it is.

My name is Alec Schmidt and I'm very much not alone. I'm joined by my co-host Katie Golden. Katie, hi.

Yes. Hello. It's me. And we are keeping it quick because we have wonderful guests joining us as well, introducing them one by one.

You know him as the host of Troubled Waters.

You know him for his writing and hosting and so many other wonderful things.

Dave Holmes rejoins us.

Hello, Dave.

Hello, Alex and Katie.

How are you?

Doing great.

We are recently fresh from being in Europe.

That was fun.ie's usually there

but i was there too i'm still fresh and in europe you are fresh and in europe where where were you

a london episode together uh and also with their buddy robinns at the london podcast festival

i love robinns and I love the London Podcast Festival.

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