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Welcome to Inside the Hive. I'm your host Nick Bilton. So one of the things that is truly astounding about

this country that we live in is the number of people who are in jail who have

been in jail who are on probation it's around 7 million people who are currently right now either in prison on probation under some sort of supervision

What's even more astounding is the number of people who have been put to death in this country

Who have later been exonerated

who were found to be not guilty after they were put in the electric chair or

however they were sentenced to death. So today we're actually going to talk about one of those people and my guest today is Ed Zwick. He is the director of the new movie Trial by Fire. It is a crazy astounding story. I remember reading it in 2009 in the New Yorker, the first version of

this and just scratching my head. It stuck with me, still sticks with me today, I think about

it often, and I'm really excited to have Ed on the

show to talk about not just this case but a lot of other things around people

in power and how they get away with the things that they get away with so

without further ado.

Welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us today. This is very very exciting.

So you are sitting here because one of the my favorite articles ever written period is the article that is based on your movie

Trial by Fire written by David Grant.

It is an astounding piece of journalism and so when I found out you

were doing the movie I had to have you on. I have so many questions. So for the people

who don't know about this, we're going to have to tell them the story, but I'm just curious how you came to it first.

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