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Welcome to the Dig, a podcast from Jacobin magazine. My name is Daniel Denver and I'm broadcasting

from Providence, Rhode Island. I have done a number of interviews about the history of conservative

and reactionary movements here and elsewhere, but it feels like the American right is right now

such a protean force, rapidly changing in bizarre and often terrifying ways.

But its basic function, as Corey Robin reminds us, remains the same, to beat back movements

in political currents for human freedom, and to shore up class, gender, racial, national,

civilizational, religious, and sexual hierarchies in systems of domination.

This interview is my in-depth, if inevitably not entirely exhaustive, conversation with Matt

Sidman and Sam Atler-Bell, the hosts of the wonderful podcast Know Your Enemy, which

analyzes the conservative movement and its thinkers. If you turn to the dig for these sorts of

discussions, please know that we rely on you to keep the podcast up and running. Please take a

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