Welcome back to Alice World. I have a super special guest. Oh, I love your glasses. His name is Thomas from Paranoid American. Welcome.

Thank you. I feel very welcome. I appreciate you having me here. Nice. And I love your co-host over there, Slimer dancing in the background. He's given the slimer vibes.

I love it.

It helps in case the stream ever freezes.

You can tell if I've just gone very stoic or if, like, we're still broadcasting.

I can see you're on the neon train too because we love the neon.

We've got all that.

But I want to tell you guys a story before we get

into it tonight. I have actually met Thomas and we have had a curse on our household since

that day. I knew it.

I did not believe. So we tried to go to an event called Bohemian Grove where Jay was supposed to sing all his cringe course songs and get to know lots of other cool podcasters and do his comedy thing. We were so excited. And he got sicker over the day. We drove all the way to Tampa. I said, I'll drive you there and you do your thing and we can leave right away.

And he's like, I'll try, you know, like he was being a trooper.

But we got there and I walk in and I see these cool, occult little books.

And I'm like, this kind of takes me back because it was like a merch table that you would see at a

conference like an old conspiracy conference or something you know yeah and I was like yeah these look

cool I'm going to get him so I bought him and I'm flipping through and I go to the QR code that comes

with those and I go to your website paranoid American and I American. And I'm trying to take care of him,

but I'm so interested in what's going on. And I'm like, I see a cult book club. I'm like,

cool, I love occult books. You know, that's my whole schick. You know, that's our thing we do on Rockfin.

And I click on the first one and it's mind control. I'm like, oh, neat,

you know. And then his other play was like, occult Disney. And I'm like, did we just become best

friends? Absolutely. Right. Accult book club, Brit Springmeyer, occult Disney. I mean, you're speaking

...