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🗓️ 18 September 2024
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Sean and Varn are joined by special guest, A.P. Andy of the Antifada podcast, to round out their previous conversation on current impasses on the left.
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How did Andy’s Platypus Affiliated Panel go? What’s new with the American Communist Party and how have they Stalinized Bordigism? What has happened to make Marxism-Leninism into an anachronistic meme ideology? And, in the bonus section, out of all this decay what hope is there in some sort of renewal? (We’ve got some ideas on this front that are better than tailing MAGA and streaming it to underemployed 20-year-olds.)
Platypus panel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQxb86UTmCo
Song: Gary Numan - This Wreckage
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0:00.0 | I'm ancient and I was still an adult in 2001 that's that's where I'm at but so were you so yeah no I could I could drink on 9-11 and I did |
0:22.4 | Did I ever? |
0:24.0 | Andy, you're a little bit younger, but not so much. |
0:28.0 | Yeah, I was in a freshman in high school when 9-11 happens. |
0:31.0 | Isn't it wild? 9-11 happens. |
0:32.6 | Isn't it wild the way that the like the mass interpretation of it has changed or at least |
0:39.3 | it's like social media representation because I was I was on vacation but I looked at X |
0:46.3 | Twitter on September 11th and there's always been conspiracies since the very |
0:52.1 | beginning and I've been fighting back against those for God 20 something as 23 years at this point |
0:57.6 | But the anti-Semitism I think this year and especially was way worse than I'd seen it before. |
1:05.0 | No, it's always been, it's always been pretty central. |
1:08.0 | Yeah, it's more, maybe it's more explicit these. |
1:10.0 | Yeah. |
1:11.0 | It's actually what you're seeing is Elon Musk doesn't just not suppress that |
1:19.0 | speech it seems to always make it into my for your page which is which is kind of insane |
1:27.8 | I've been on other social media recently just remind myself that Twitter's weird and it's full of Marxist |
1:34.0 | Leninist and Nazis and I and not to equate those two things actually but |
1:39.2 | they're different but they're both annoying. |
1:50.0 | Depending on the kind of Marxist-Leninist and one thing I've been talking about lately in this weird decay point, it's hard to know when someone says there're a Marxist Leninist I no longer know what they believe at all like it's it's not a |
1:58.0 | predictor of anything anymore other than that like they like pictures of mustache man but that's really all I got. |
2:06.0 | So it's which in a way reflects you know me not knowing what social democracy or democratic |
2:15.8 | socialism was in 2017 because it's like oh whatever the next trend is but we're not here to talk about that exactly. I mean we're talking about the renewal part. |
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