I thought this podcast was going to be about minimalism and emotional clutter and kind of the same things I often talk about but shockingly it was one of the most impactful conversations I've ever had and in fact I got emotional and

teary-eyed near the end. I'm hoping you have the same reaction.

Hey Clutterbugs, welcome back to the Clutterbug podcast. Today I am interviewing T.K. Coleman.

He is a speaker, a teacher, and one of the co-hosts

of the minimalist.

He's also an author of his brand new ebook and audiobook

called Emotional Clutter.

Buckle up because he is probably one of the wisest human beings I've ever spoke with and I am so

excited for you to get to know him. So welcome TK to the Clutterbug podcast. I am so excited to have you here. Me too, me too. I love the work that you're doing. I love the way you engage this space, so I've been looking forward to this conversation.

I'm really looking forward to you. I interviewed Joshua maybe

last week or the week before so I've been watching the minimalist podcast and I just

love your take on everything so thrilled to have you here. We talk a lot about decluttering physical stuff and the thing that's so

amazing about the minimalist podcast is you go a step further not just minimalism with the physical objects but just like life.

Simplifying your entire life and I downloaded your ebook emotional clutter and I love to talk about that.

All right. Yeah. This is something that I rarely talk about so I'm curious like how do you define emotional clutter.

I define emotional clutter as the thoughts, judgments and practices that get in the way of establishing a healthy

relationship to the entirety of the emotional spectrum.

And that is in contrast to treating emotions themselves

as a kind of clutter, which I think is the easy thing

to do if I feel sad, I feel jealous if I feel angry I immediately

invoke some kind of judgment about what that says about my worthiness, my value, my integrity, and if I were a more enlightened person,

if I were a more mature person, if I were a better human being, I simply wouldn't feel the way that I feel now.

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