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🗓️ 22 March 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Matt Chorley explores why the number of fluent Russian speakers in the Foreign Office fell by a quarter in the years before the invasion of Ukraine.
PLUS Daniel Finkelstein and Oliver Kamm discuss President Putin getting "an easy off-ramp" and Nazanin Zaghari Ratcliffe.
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0:00.0 | Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Cholick. Now, do you speak Russian? |
0:10.0 | The foreign office probably could do with your help. We've revealed on the program that, |
0:15.0 | in the last few years, the number of fluent Russian speakers in the foreign office has fallen |
0:21.0 | by more than a quarter. So we're going to take a look at what this means for |
0:26.0 | its ability to engage with Russia in the run-up to the invasion of Ukraine, particularly |
0:31.0 | the real warnings after the annexation of Crimea about the decline in language abilities |
0:36.0 | in the foreign office. So that's coming up in our big thing, just to remember. |
0:39.0 | First, it's our Colourless Panel. No think of which today, because David |
0:42.0 | or one of which is offering a spa break or something. So we've got Daniel |
0:46.0 | Finkelstein and Oliver Kam. |
0:50.0 | Does this make us the penultimate for mentors? |
0:55.0 | What is it? Is it Finkel Kam? Fin Kam? Kamovich. |
1:02.0 | Kamovich. Kamovich. There's definitely something involving Kamovich. |
1:07.0 | Let's talk about Ukraine. And this suggestion that Britain's concerned that |
1:13.0 | France and Germany will offer President Putin an easy off-lamp. |
1:16.0 | And you know, there's a sort of concern that Putin then might get away with it. |
1:23.0 | Danny, one person's getting away with it is another person's ending the war, isn't it? |
1:28.0 | Yeah, it's a very, very difficult question. I'll be fascinated to know what Oliver has to say. |
1:33.0 | On the one hand, Boris Johnson made the right point earlier in this when he said, |
1:38.0 | Putin cannot be seen to win out of this kind of aggression. |
1:42.0 | And when you, you know, you fight as we do, it is to try to prevent this kind of aggression |
1:50.0 | from seeing to gain anybody anything. |
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