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The Checkup with Doctor Mike

Doctors Should Stop Acting Like Scientists

The Checkup with Doctor Mike

DM Operations Inc.

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2023

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Watch the full interview on YouTube here: https://go.doctormikemedia.com/youtube/UnbiasedSciencePod Dr. Andrea Love and Dr. Jessica Steier are two of the smartest people in medical media. Together they host The Unbiased Science Podcast where they attack the trending medical controversies relying exclusively on the data. This allows them to remove emotion from their discussions and allow research and math to lead them to conclusions that are often messy but reliable. They've done deep dives on intermittent fasting, infant feeding, COVID vaccines... you name it. I invited them on the show to discuss some issues that have been on my mind lately, especially surrounding the way medical experts have been communicating with each other on social media. We talked about that toxicity as well as shaming people for how they've responded to the pandemic, treating inflammation with cold plunges, and whether or not doctors are actually scientists. If you like nuanced discussion about health and medicine, you’re in the right place. Follow The Unbiased Science podcast here: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unbiased-science/id1531526782 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JMSODgbC5auqScduzYVZn YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@unbiasedscipod IG: https://www.instagram.com/unbiasedscipod Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbiasedscipod Executive Producer and Host: Dr. Mike Varshavski Produced by Dan Owens and Sam Bowers Art by Caroline Weigum CONTACT: [email protected]

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0:00.0

This was a really tough decision and when they make it personal that's when we because we've left all 90% of our content is controversial

0:07.2

Yeah, we get a lot of like sexualized death threats but then when that stuff comes in and they they bring my kids in or anything like that

0:13.8

like shutting that right down. It's frequently said that doctors aren't scientists

0:19.3

and we need to stop speaking as if we were scientists. Well my next two guests are both

0:25.2

scientists. Please welcome Dr. Stier and Dr Love to the show hosts of the

0:29.8

unbiased science podcast to debate that very point.

0:33.5

When I say debate, it's more like discuss

0:36.0

because we not only discuss that, my RSV controversy,

0:39.9

all the topics that exist in the health and wellness space surrounding natural

0:43.9

supplements natural cures and is inflammation to blame for all of our

0:49.8

problems this is going to be a really contentious exciting educational and even collaborative conversation.

0:57.0

So please enjoy.

0:58.0

Let's get started with the checkup.

1:01.0

I have two scientists in front of me. I am not a scientist, but I feel like

1:06.8

doctors like to think of themselves as scientists. It feels like you have a controversial stance on this at least within our community of doctors

1:16.8

correct who wants to take first stab at proving why I'm not a scientist.

1:20.8

Well I think the thing is is that some clinicians are

1:23.9

scientists but not all clinicians are scientists and the public just automatically

1:29.2

assumes that all clinicians are scientists.

1:32.8

But I mean, you could speak to this better than we can.

1:35.6

My husband's an ER doc, and he always says

1:38.1

he had no formal training in epidemiology

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