Keep listening for Part 2 with Dr. Wendy Ulrich, Doctrine and Covenants, sections 12 through 17,

and Joseph Smith History, verses 66 through 75.

I love the idea of what you're saying, Wendy, about we have access to this power. And it's a different sort of power where you may think

you have. It's like the Leihona. That's what I like to compare it to. The Leahona only worked if

you were righteous and you don't have priested power if you begin to exercise. What are the words?

Control, dominion, compulsion.

No. Amen. Or in other words, sayanara to the priest or the authority of that man, right?

It's different than being a boss where if you're the boss, you're always the boss.

You can lose priested power by being bossy or domineering, then you don't have priesthood power anymore.

I remember my wife once serving as young women's president and she was counseling with the

young men's president. The two were having a discussion and making a decision.

This man, I'm sure he's a great guy. He just said, well, I hold the priesthood, so I'll make this decision.

Wrong in so many different ways.

On so many levels.

Yeah.

He didn't preside over her in any way, shape, or form.

What did you say earlier, Wendy? Having the priesthood does not make

us the decision makers. I think amen to that power. It's gone. Yeah, there's a story that

it's in my mind, and it's a good example, and I hate it at the same time. But Elder Hugh W. Pinoc tells

of a time when a couple came into his office. He gave a talk at BYU. I think it was called 10

keys for marriage or something. And this was the 70s, the 80s maybe a long time ago, but he said

this, tell her she has to obey me because I have the priesthood.

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