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Hi Andy, thanks so much for joining us. Obviously this is the New Statement podcast,

so we want to talk mainly politics. You've been satirising politics since the height of New

Labour. I just wondered if you found it easier or harder to find the humour since then.

It's really varied to be honest. Doing political comedy in the last,

certainly the last two years, really, the last five or six, has felt that there's a repetitive

element to it and that the news has not changed a great deal. One of the great challenges is to try

and find fresh angles on things, fresh ways of looking at politics, but it has unquestionably,

I think challenged political comedians all around the world, really, with Trump in America,

when the whole world became comedians, the challenge of finding interesting ways of addressing it

and relevant ways of addressing the most important parts of what he represented,

Brexit here, obviously, has been certainly for three or four years just totally dominant as an issue

and obviously it was divisive. So it was certainly a comedic challenge to keep it fresh and

interesting and hopefully insightful. And then, yes, Covid has just been such a curious,

it's a difficult thing, I think, comedically, from a political point of view because

there are so many things that we don't know yet about it even now in terms of what has been

the right and wrong ways to deal with things and whether we ever know that, not entirely sure.

But, yes, the repetitive nature of news, I think, has been the biggest challenge,

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