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The Rachel Maddow Show

Donald Trump fired the man who likely saved his life; U.S. may never fully recover from Trump's cuts

The Rachel Maddow Show

MSNBC

Madow, Washington, Rachel Maddow, Congress, Campaign, Policy, Election, President, Nbc, Public, News, Government, Maddow, Politics, Issues

4.534K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Dr. David Kessler, former FDA commissioner and chief science officer of the White House Covid-19 Task Force, talks with Rachel Maddow about the devastating effects of Donald Trump's cuts to HHS, not only in dismantling important services, but compromising U.S. medical and scientific leadership to a degree that may not be recoverable for decades.

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0:00.0

So are you tired of all the winning yet? Are you enjoying all of the greatness?

0:06.9

May I introduce you to Takalau?

0:09.6

Takila is three teeny tiny islands in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

0:15.0

That's our best approximation on our mapping software here at MSNBCHQ.

0:21.7

Takula, again, about three, it's three islands.

0:24.5

It's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

0:26.8

About 1,500 people live there.

0:29.3

One of the three islands that makes up Takulao is apparently known for its famous swimming

0:35.4

pigs.

0:38.0

As for its economy,

0:39.9

Takula kind of doesn't register

0:41.9

on any international scale

0:44.2

of economic measures.

0:46.8

Because Takula doesn't really have

0:48.5

much of an economy. It's basically

0:50.0

subsistence, agriculture, and fishing.

0:53.9

And, you know, enjoying the swimming pigs.

0:57.9

Donald Trump just imposed an across-the-board, no exceptions, 10% tariff on Takalau.

1:05.3

Take that, Takilau bandits.

1:08.7

You will screw over the United States of America no longer.

1:13.3

May I also introduce you to the Keeling Islands. Killing Islands are roughly halfway

1:18.4

between Australia and Sri Lanka in the Indian Ocean. Keeling Islands is 27 islands, but 25 of them are uninhabited.

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