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Hi listeners, my name is Theo.

I'm one of Brianies producers.

I'm just jumping in here to tell you that there is some fruity language in this episode

so it's not one I'd recommend listening to in front of your children. I hope you enjoy it.

Yesterday I had a really healthy meal and I made sure I put extra veggies in the stuff and then I had a packet of Rollo's chaser you? And it's like it's only one packet that I'll admit to.

This week's guest is one of the most magical people I have ever had the privilege of meeting.

Donna Lancaster may not be a name you know, but it's my belief that the work she does should be available to all perhaps as part of the national

curriculum or as some sort of mental health version of the Duke of Edinburgh Award.

Donner is a therapist who runs special retreats for people, feelings of lost and all at sea.

And 18 months ago I was lucky enough to go on one, and the work I did that week was absolutely life-changing. And I wanted to get Donna on the

podcast to spread some of her magic healing to everyone, especially as we go

through this strange time. So would you please welcome Donna Lancaster?

You're laughing. I'm laughing because I've got if you could see me Briany I'm all bashful like

oh shucks. So the first question we ask everyone on this

podcast is how are you really right now? Yeah it's a really good question right now I'm feeling a bit nervous because I'm an introvert by nature,

so to do something like this is always a challenge to me,

but like you, I'm also very good at facing my fears so I feel some

nerves and a little bit of fear and I also feel really grateful to be asked to be

honest yeah so that's how I am right now. If you'd asked me this morning I would have said something different because this morning I felt really really sad. My daughter's just had a baby and it's that sort of sadness of the reality of the situation we're in that I can't go and

hold my newborn grandchild in my arm.

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