There's no accountability without truth. So if you want to know how power really operates in today's world you can't just

look at what journalists are saying you have to examine what it is they're keeping

silent about.

One big thing is that we're not actually in an era of post-empire.

We live in the age of American Empire.

The US alone accounts for more than a third of the world's total military expenditure.

They've got the world's largest Navy and Air Force,

and they operate more than 1,000 military installations in foreign countries across the globe.

And we never hear a public conversation about what this means, still less about whether it's

a good thing or not.

So this week I'm joined by

Matt Kennard, investigative journalist for Declassified and author of The

racket, a rogue reporter versus the American state. We talk about CIA Black Sites, the Israel Lobby, and whether Kistama might

be the most secretive Prime Minister this country has ever seen. I hope you enjoy the interview.

Matt Kennard, thank you so much for joining us today.

Good to be here, thanks for having me again.

So I guess my first question is,

how did you become politicized?

Where did you start out growing up and how did you end up where you are now?

Yeah, that's a good question because I wasn't always political in the sense of coming straight out

the womb and being like... Well, my dad a very political and he's a political artist so I did

have that growing up but I was more into the art side of things when I was a kid and I

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