We were taught almost nothing about nutrition in medical school.

It was really through my own pursuit to try to help myself feel better.

They couldn't find anything wrong.

It was getting to the point where it's difficult for me to work.

Starting to instinctively experiment with my diet to figure out if diet might have some role to play

in what I was experiencing.

Eventually ended up with a diet that was almost upside down and backwards from what we're told is healthy for us.

If you want to burn fat for energy, you don't just need to limit carbohydrate. All of the dots

connected for me when I learned about type 2 diabetes is one of the end stage forms of insulin

resistance. Anything that spikes your glucose above 110 is a little red flag saying this is risky.

And anything that goes above 140, high glucose levels are toxic to every cell in the body.

With type 2 diabetes, which is a disease of high blood sugar, gradually destroys every organ,

the eyes, the kidneys, the limbs, the heart, the liver, the brain.

And then behind that is the silent roller coaster that you can't see. You combine like two very fascinating topics for me, which is

psychology, psychiatry, the mind, as well as health and nutrition. I'm curious

because I heard you say that you had your own health issues. So I find a lot of times,

I mean, a lot of this is because I've felt like I've needed these aspects. And so it like

makes me learn so much more about them. So I feel like a lot of

times this is how someone becomes really, really good at an area of life is because they've,

they've needed it. So what was that for you? Yeah, it really was like so many of us who, we stumble

into these alternative ways of thinking about nutrition

because we weren't taught to think about nutrition and mental health in this way. We were taught

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