Dreaming of a Black Utopia in Trump's America

Code Switch

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Society & Culture

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🗓️ 11 December 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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In his new book, The Black Utopians, author Aaron Robertson tells the story of how Black folks have created many different versions of utopian communities throughout history — and why those communities tend to be especially meaningful during times of political tension and racial unrest.

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0:49.6	And I'm Gene Demby.
0:51.3	Gene, do you think it's possible for us to ever live in a utopia?
0:56.1	You mean like some place where people skipping around with tie-dye-on, you know what I mean,
0:59.1	making, I don't know, various nut milks with like-minded people.
1:05.0	In this current climate, no, absolutely not.
1:07.6	I mean, all you need is a blender in some time, but when you put it like that, it sounds silly.
1:12.7	Why, you're trying to live in a utopia or something?
1:15.0	I don't, no, I think I just need the possibility of a place where I feel safe, or I guess, rather, where black people feel safe.
1:25.7	Have you ever had that before?
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