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Drilled Presents...Spill: Mary Annaise Heglar & Amy Westervelt on climate in this week's debate, Project 2025, and a whole lot more

Drilled

Critical Frequency

True Crime, Earth Sciences, Social Sciences, Science

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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This week we bring you an episode of our climate talk show, Spill, for a deep dive from Mary Annaïse Heglar and Amy Westervelt on what Project 2025 lays out for climate, what we might hear (and not hear) about climate in this week's presidential debate, rethinking the climate movement and politics, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey dread listeners, we're back from a short summer break. Today we are bringing you an episode from our

0:15.5

sister podcast Spill. That is where we break down climate news, general trends,

0:22.3

talk to other writers, journalists, researchers about what they're doing, and generally keep up to date on the climate story.

0:30.0

Once a month, I bring on my former Hot Take co-host there Mary Anna E.

0:35.3

Hegler and we talk about something that is coming up in a lot of climate conversations.

0:40.6

This week we talked about Project 2025. You've probably heard of it. It's hard to avoid. We thought it was worth talking about that and climate policy in general in the lead up to this week's debate.

0:54.6

Check it out. Hope you like it and subscribe if you do wherever you get your podcasts. And the Hello Mary, how's it going?

1:23.0

How's it going? Hey Amy, how are you?

1:25.0

I'm good, I'm good.

1:27.0

Yeah, enjoying the selection season.

1:31.0

Oh my God, no. Actually, I keep waffling between like being glad I'm not in the

1:38.2

US during the election and then kind of wanting to be there following everything more closely but like but yeah man it is it's just you know I'm in such a weird place with it because on the one hand I don't feel and maybe this is just because something has broken deep down inside of me

1:56.8

I don't feel the intense sense of dread that I felt in 2016. It doesn't feel like Donald Trump is imminent. And it felt that way in 2016 and in

2:07.2

2020, so as that demonstrates, I have been wrong before in my life. Does that mean that I'm like super crunk and excited about

2:14.9

Kamala Harris? No, but I don't know if I'm capable of getting like that with any

2:20.3

politician ever again, But yeah, Donald Trump feels like I'm gonna be

2:27.2

sent to a gulag, you know what I've said enough shit publicly and he's crazy enough

2:31.9

that feels like eventually he would get around to

2:35.3

rounding up people like me in in gulads or whatever so yeah it doesn't feel like his

2:42.1

victory is imminent it also doesn't feel like his victory is imminent.

2:43.6

It also doesn't feel like Kamal Harris is imminent

2:47.8

or that she's going to be fantastic either.

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