Drilled Recommends: Outrage + Optimism — ‘How to talk about climate change so people will listen’ with John Marshall

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🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Welcome to Outrage + Optimism, where they examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform anger into productive dialogue for building a sustainable future. In this episode, the hosts discuss the slow progress made at the negotiations in Bonn and how the perceived lack of direction has led many in the climate community to feel anxious about how successful talks will be in Dubai later in the year. Christiana also touches on the New World Bank report, Detox Development: Repurposing Environmentally Harmful Subsidies, highlighting the trillions of dollars wasted on subsidies for agriculture, fishing and fossil fuels that could be used to help address climate change instead of harming people and the planet. With Tom off to the Global Citizen Power Our Planet Live event on Thursday, the hosts discuss their hopes for a more positive outcome from The Summit for a New Global Financing Pact also happening in Paris this week. Look out for the anticipated momentum to gather pace on Mia Mottley’s Bridgetown Agenda for the much needed reform of international finance. Their special interview this episode is with the brilliant communications expert John Marshall, CEO of Potential Energy Coalition, to discuss climate change’s marketing problem and how we can solve it. Essential listening and the team here all agree we could learn a lot from John’s insights! For anyone wanting to learn more about the important work of Potential Energy, click here. Music this week comes from Hazel Mei and her song Golden Chains, another finalist from this year's Environmental Music Prize. Check out her links below. Thanks to Airaphon who mixed and sound edited the podcast this week. Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website. NOTES AND RESOURCES SUBSCRIBE TO OUTRAGE + OPTIMISM HERE John Marshall, Chairman and CEO of Potential Energy Coalition LinkedIn | TED Bio Potential Energy Coalition Website | LinkedIn | Instagram Hazel Mei, Environmental Music Prize Finalist Instagram | Facebook | YouTube For anyone wanting to watch the absurd Fox news interview with Power the Future founder, Daniel Turner, here is the link. Learn more about the Paris Agreement. It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Please follow us on social media! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome back to Drilled. I'm Amy Westerville. Today, I'm bringing you an episode of one of my
0:06.0	favorite climate podcasts, Outrage and Optimism. For every week, they examine issues at the
0:11.7	forefront of the climate crisis, interview change makers, and transform anger into productive
0:18.5	dialogue about building a sustainable future. It's hosted by Cristiana Figuerrez,
0:24.7	Tom Rivet-Karnack, and Paul Dickinson, and then usually they'll have a gast on as well.
0:31.1	Today, we're bringing you an episode entitled How to Talk About Climate Change So People Will Listen.
0:37.2	It's an interview with communications expert John Marshall, CEO of Potential Energy Coalition,
0:43.5	to talk about climate change's marketing problem and how to solve it. It's essential listening
0:49.6	for anyone who wants to understand how to communicate about this massive crisis. Check it out,
0:55.5	I think you'll like it.
1:09.4	Hello and welcome to Outrage and Optimism. I'm Tom Rivet-Karnack. I'm Cristiana Figuerrez.
1:13.9	And I'm Paul Dickinson. And hello to listeners to Drilled. We have recorded this to introduce you
1:18.1	to Outrage and Optimism. Thanks for being here.
1:29.2	So friends, we are now doing this very exciting feed drop with Amy Westabout and our friends at Drilled.
1:34.8	And we are now have a interesting and exciting task ahead of us. But first of all,
1:39.0	which of you wants to tell listeners to Drilled what Outrage and Optimism is all about?
1:42.9	And Cristiana?
1:44.0	Ah, Paul wants to do that.
1:46.2	Outrage and Optimism is just as in the title. It's an opportunity for us to understand
1:50.2	the things that drive us crazy about climate change and make us concerned.
1:53.5	You don't need to go into your sort of English gentleman node when doing this.
1:57.1	I've just talked just a flag.
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