This is Ross Coulter and you are listening to That UFO podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast. My name is Andy and joining me on the podcast for a

second time are two private citizen scientists and UAP investigators. Welcome back John and

Gerald Jerry Tedesco. How are you doing guys?

You're okay? Hi, Andy. Thanks for having us back. Glad to be back. Very good to have you on.

And a little nice synchronicity. I wrote this interview today because it's been quite last minute.

We've put it together in the last kind of 24 hours or so. And I wrote the line and I was quite quite chuffed with this, that, you know, you've kitted out

the UFO equivalent of the Ghostbusters Ecto1 with the RV, capable of collecting incredible

amounts of data on UFOs.

As I wrote that line, no word of a lie, a little kid ran past me with a Ghostbusters t-shirt on.

So I was like, that is a sign to leave that in there.

And if folks want to hear like an extensive background on you guys and, you know,

all about Nightcrawler, the RV you've got, I suggest to go back and listen to the previous

podcast we've done for that kind of history because we want to kind of move on but what's the cliff notes version of you guys story

and kind of why you are where you are yeah so I mean we started this in uh in uh uh July of

2022 it was a two-year research project. We finished the phase one and we published a book on it called Nightcrawler Eye on the Sky. We also published, at this point, published two papers, a paper on the phase one part of study and now we've finished a phase two paper uh both uh published in

the open journal of applied sciences right yeah and it's uh you know we've been we've been um

doing this research now uh since since july since july of 2022 and um you know in november uh we we've had high numbers of incursions with you know drone type or drone

like vehicles out there along with the you know the persistent orbs who've been encountering

over that period of time yeah that's an interesting thing is it occurred. We had these drone-like objects. We had like

two types of objects, these orb-like objects, which were also polyhedral objects, we believe.

It just has to do with the change in luminosity. When the luminosity drops, you see a structure, it looks polyhedral.

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