Let's talk with Heather de Bro starts now. I'm so excited. We've had to cancel this so many times. The two of us, our schedules are insane. I love her so much. She's a friend of the show. You love her. She's fabulous.

She's a fashion designer, a social media sensation, an icon. Please welcome Carla Rockmore.

Boy, thank you.

And honestly, I was so freaking exhausted this morning.

I thought I would have to cancel.

I'm not sleeping.

Why?

I don't, well, there's lots of stress. I mean, there's always that. I thought it was over,

menopause. I really did. It's never over. It's never over? This is what I've decided. I've decided that we women were just

fucked. That is what I think. I think that it starts the day you're born.

I mean, no, seriously, like, you have to go through puberty

and then you get these weird hormonal things

in your 20s, they don't tell you about.

And then in your 30s you're actually pre-minopausal in your 30s they don't tell you that and

you're supposed to have your hormones checked then but we don't and like we have kids and stuff, and we're just tired and

pissed and angry and we think it's because of them, but it's really the hormones.

And then it happens again in your 40s, and then you actually are going through it then in your

50s and then you think it's going to end at some point but I don't think it does.

It's a constant roller coaster from the moment you're born and you know it's really you know it's actually really really bad

Why am so fucking angry at my husband? Oh right now? Well just yes. Is he has anything? And he gets up and jumps on the

Pilaton and when he falls and when he hits the pillow he's out and what is it about men and the fact that they don't

suffer they don't. Terry doesn't sleep, but I have to say he's never slept, so I think that's just him.

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