The new podcast In the Shadow of Princeton starts as the matriarch of a prominent Princeton family is found stabbed to death in her locked basement.

Investigators look from a serial attacker to her family to Princeton University students.

One hop let it investigator sees a conspiracy. Is he way off base or does privilege let you get away with murder?

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Welcome back to Book I Talk, I'm Stephen Means, that's Andrew Gillis and that's

Stefan Christ's sake. Fun Pod, Fun Idea, Fun Idea, Fun Idea, Big Pod, at least I think think so and given the way that the response has been

from Stefan and Andrew I think they think this is a good idea as well either that or

maybe they're just good at doing their jobs and

coming up with things when I tell them to do things but either way I think it's

going to be interesting and we're doing it in the vein of Ohio State facing

Nebraska on Saturday which of of course a starting quarterback Dylan

Rayola a long time ago, was committed to Ohio State.

And so there is kind of this like, hey, what if Dylan Rayola had never decommitted from Ohio State?

Would he be starting right now? Probably not, but we'd be having a very different conversation

about Ohio State's 2025 quarterback room and who the potential starter could be and who may or may not be in that

room. So I decided listen let's just do a complete what if pot of the Ryan Day era.

So that's 2019 up to the present so no Joe Burrow I have to keep

reminding people that because I think the easy thing is oh what if Joe Burrow

would have won the quarterback battle for starters I don't know man like Duane has to do 50 tests now passes that year.

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