E191: Pleading the 5th. And the 4th

Sober Friends

Matt J

Alcohol Free, Alcoholics Anonymous, Recovery, Dry January, Spirituality, Sober, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Sobriety, Sober Curious, Addiction, Religion & Spirituality, 12 Steps

4.2 • 718 Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Send us a text The fourth and fifth steps can cause a lot of fear when we first come into a twelve step group. For me, they were liberating. We discuss why the fourth and fifth steps are so important. This is not a how to, this is why they are great steps, how they help you learn more about yourself and why you drink and help you understand how to stay away from the bottle. The fifth step helps you build trust and to have a deep conversation with an another alcoholic a...

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0:00.0	I'm Matt.
0:00.9	Hey, I'm Steve.
0:01.9	Hey, I'm John.
0:03.2	This is the Sober Friends podcast.
0:05.8	We're here for The Sober Curious, the new guy, and the old timer.
0:10.3	We're here to talk about the stuff anyone looking to live, alcohol-free has-to-face day-to-day.
0:15.5	Now we overcame those struggles.
0:17.3	We speak for no 12-step group, but we do try to remain anonymous.
0:23.1	You're not alone. This is the sober friends podcast. All right, Steve, good morning. I have been in a rabbit hole of some
0:32.1	soprano stuff for a while. And we were talking last week about inspiration from celebrities who got their act together.
0:39.6	And I was thinking about like, who are the people who didn't get their act together? And I'm just thinking
0:44.4	about all this off the top of my head. And I've been going on a rabbit hole reading stories about
0:49.4	James Gandalfini. There's your example of people who got addicted and didn't find their way out.
0:59.0	And he, some of the things that he did on set when he was hung over or forgot things is he would punch himself in the face and talking himself down.
1:10.4	This is my long way around talking about the fourth and the fifth step, because clearly
1:16.2	this is a guy who had demons that he could not sort out, no matter what, no matter.
1:22.1	The fame, the money, the fortune.
1:25.4	He just couldn't figure it out. And that came to mind when I heard,
1:31.2	you know, he's slapping himself in the face, punching himself in the face. There were those
1:35.6	things about why he drank that he never got to. And that's why I thought it was worth talking
1:42.6	about fourth and a fifth step.
1:44.2	Not this is not going to be your episode about how you write it down on your legal pad or in your Joe and Charlie workshop.
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