I'm Matt.

Hey, I'm Steve.

Hey, I'm John.

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You're not alone. This is the sober friends podcast. I read a great article in the New York Times this week. One of the best things

that I did was getting a year's subscription to the New York Times. One of the reasons I did that is I am so sick of

clicking on a link and then I hit the paywall. So at work, I can get a year's subscription for free.

And it is the best thing that I have done. And Steve, I shared with you the other day, this

opinion essay from the New York Times, which I'm going to link.

I have a gift link so you won't hit the paywall that I'll put it in the comments.

And it's are we thinking about obesity all wrong?

And because I'm always thinking about alcoholism, I tied this right into alcoholism. And the idea overall in the

article is, is obesity really a disease or is it the symptom or side effect of another disease?

And I think we can say the same about alcoholism. Good morning, Steve. How are you?

Good morning, Matt. I'm good today. It's really good to be here. Yeah, thanks for that link.

The article is really thought-provoking. It really was a great article once, you know, I read it

a couple times just so I could get a feel of it but um yeah it's just

you know again it just attacks it right on and it talks about how different countries talk about

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