But isolation is a great story because I always say that when I isolated and when I drank,

when I drank, I drank, I isolated.

Right.

And I drank alone, just like this, just like George Thurgoode says in his song.

And not only I drink along, I drank like, yeah, I've talked about it many times.

I drank alone in my basement because that's where I could drink heavy, right? I could drink heavy and fast. Like, I'd go down

there, like, I pound a few drinks. I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't sit down there for hours,

usually, but usually I'd have a reason to go down there and it's like pound a couple of drinks,

pound a couple shots of tequila, pound a couple glasses of wine whatever I was drinking at the time

and then head back upstairs and let it you know let the alcohol kick in I'm Matt hey I'm

Steve hey I'm John this is the sober friends podcast we'reber Curious, the new guy, and the old timer.

We're here to talk about the stuff anyone looking to live, alcohol-free has to face day to day.

Now we overcame those struggles.

We speak for no 12-step group, but we do try to remain anonymous.

You're not alone.

This is the Sober Friends podcast.

Last few weeks, we've been talking about Joe and Charlie, and the reason for going to Joe and Charlie is to stop isolating and to get around people.

And we had a new participant, week two, our buddy Rick, and he came out because you guessed it, he was isolating.

So we got like a table full of people isolating, and you said you had a story about Rick.

That's why I want to talk about isolation because I love to isolate.

Yeah, well, you know, good to be with you, Matt.

And yeah, Rick, we started this hiking group, right? You know, John and I, we've talked about it on this podcast before.

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