We need to let people know we have to put it out there. Because I just know when I do that,

because it's that secrets, right? Let's face it. If you're doing this and nobody knows you're doing it,

it's sort of like this little secret. Yeah, I don't like that. And that's where abuse happens, right?

Abuse happens in those secrets. So it's so, so important that if you're thinking about or you think you might need medication and you've been apprehensive about taking it because of the things we're talking about today, it's possible that you could do it safely.

But you have to be real. You have to be honest. You have to say, why am I taking this medication? What do I expect out of this

medication? How do I, how do I monitor it and manage it? And you can do that by medical people

and non-medical people that are close to you. Hey, hey, everybody. We have a new member for the Sober

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You can be a member. You can do one time support in buying us a coffee. So what do you get for it?

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about the stuff anyone looking to live alcohol free

has to face day to day how we overcame those struggles we speak for no 12-step group but we do try

to remain anonymous you're not alone this is the sober friends podcast i've had discussion steve

especially when i was early in recovery with people around medication.

One guy that we know, who's been around a long time, I told them when I was brand new,

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