E244: Macklemore: "I Couldn't Feel Any Sort Of Happiness"

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Society & Culture, Business, Education

4.6 • 13.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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In this new episode Steven sits down with the American rapper and songwriter Macklemore. Ben Haggerty adopted the stage name of Macklemore when he began rapping at the age of 14, at the same time he was beginning his struggle with substance abuse. Ben released his debut album, ‘The Language of My World’, in 2005. However, his struggles with addiction threaten to halt his musical career and he entered rehab in 2008. He started collaborating with the producer Ryan Lewis in 2009 and the pair released their album, ‘The Heist’, in 2012. This album went on to win 4 Grammy Awards and become platinum certified. Since 2017, Ben has focused on his solo career, releasing the album ‘Gemini’ and launching his golf-inspired clothing brand Bogey Boys in 2021. He has just released his third solo album, ‘Ben’. In this conversation Ben and Steven discuss topics, such as: Ben’s struggle with addiction and relapsing How to be there for someone struggling with the disease of addiction Knowing the difference between what you want in the moment vs in the long term Removing your ego and being present during the creative process The double edged sword of social media You can listen to Macklemore’s new album, ‘Ben’, here: https://bit.ly/3oJlgPH Ben: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3LbbcGx Twitter: https://bit.ly/3HgwHoa Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/3kxINCANKsb Follow: Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: https://bit.ly/41Fl95Q Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Sponsors: Bluejeans: https://g2ul0.app.link/NCgpGjVNKsb Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb

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0:00.0	Maybe this world's not for me because I don't know what I'm doing here anymore
0:04.7	I feel nothing. I think that that's the hardest part. I haven't really spoke about this
0:09.9	It's um
0:12.7	Yeah, I'll just say it. I mean
0:15.7	The man behind our favorite hits music superstar Grammy award winner
0:19.8	We're just getting started. You have no idea. Why does the desire to be on stage come from Michael Jackson?
0:25.8	I wanted to make music art with melody. It was where I felt an escape from my head
0:33.2	14-year-old taking 12 shots of vodka, you know on a school night by myself
0:38.3	Running from the police and doing drugs that never stopped
0:44.1	I've read um your wife had taken a pregnancy test. Yeah, we were in our home and
0:48.7	I'm there. I'm high. Our period was late
0:52.1	Went got a their pregnancy test and I'm just like
0:55.9	praying
0:57.2	Let this be a negative pregnancy test. I'm not ready to give up the drugs
1:02.2	And then I heard the tears
1:04.2	I remember walking outside. I just started bawling because I couldn't feel any sort of happiness
1:11.0	And I knew what that meant
1:13.2	If you were to go back and be able to have a conversation now with young Bennett 14 years old before that first drink
1:19.8	What would you say? It's a great question. It's gonna cause way more pain than good, but at the same time
1:38.4	Ben when I think about people's lives and I think from doing this podcast
1:44.7	This has become more sort of clear to me. I see their lives as like a series of dots
1:49.8	You know like or a series of dominoes that fell to lead them to where they are today
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