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The Antifada

E284 - Betar, then Ezra w/ Eli Valley (Part 1)

The Antifada

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

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Political cartoonist and writer Eli Valley joins us to talk about his new book Museum of Degenerates: Portraits of the American Grotesque, another Senate Antisemitism hearings, the future of the Israeli-American fascist alliance, and a bit about AI, Jabotinski, Betar, and Ezra Klein's Abundance agenda.

In the fun half we talk about Eli's pre-cartoonist life giving tours in Europe and the movie A Real Pain, and where Eli draws the line with his political imagery.

To listen to the full episode support the show at http://patreon.com/theantifada

Buy Museum of Degenerates from O/R Books: https://orbooks.com/catalog/museum-of-degenerates/

Song: Mad Magazine Off-Broadway Musical - Hate Song

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0:00.0

Okay, Alfred, let's boogie!

0:07.8

Check, check.

0:13.1

Andy's got the obligatory tweet from Shy Davidson up on his laptop we're all looking at right now.

0:19.6

Very appropriate, I think.

0:22.1

We are, all right, we're back with Ellie Valley after many years.

0:26.7

You were on the show in 2019.

0:29.1

Episode 48, give him enough trope.

0:32.1

Great title.

0:33.3

And the topics we talked about them are still somewhat relevant today.

0:38.5

Maybe a little more extreme at this point.

0:41.0

Before we came on here, we were trying to think about what happened in 2019.

0:45.4

And it was because you drew a cartoon of Megan McCain, is that right?

0:48.7

And it was in your typical style, what's the word, a nimitable style?

0:53.1

It was a grotesquery yeah and i think she got

0:56.2

really offended is yeah it was a couple weeks before i came on your show maybe just a week and a half

1:00.1

and uh she called it anti-semitic she called me anti-semitic for uh caricaturing her as a sure um you know

1:08.0

christian big at wearing judaism like a mask and what did she have in front of her

1:11.8

like a like a matzabal soup and like what else was on the table yeah you read that thing uh last

1:16.9

week yeah yeah yeah about that too um well there was she was using matzabal uh what he called

1:22.9

mix like cereal pouring into a bowl with no water. She had like Yentel.

1:28.3

She had like, you know, the Jewish race explained book, you know.

1:32.4

And like a bunch of other things, but also mainly what I liked is on the lower left was

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