All right, welcome back to the podcast. I am joined today with a team of researchers, clinicians.

They run the heads up Pennsylvania. It's like an early psychosis educational program.

They also do, they work through Penn at the early psychosis center. And they are coming on today

to educate my audience about early psychosis treatment, psychotherapy, medication. Today, we have

the whole team. Monica Kahn, she is a PhD heads up co-director who oversees outreach, education,

training at heads up. We also have Christian Kohler. He is a psychiatrist co-director of heads up.

He has participated in research on emotion processing, brain related studies, novel treatments,

resulting in over a hundred publications to date. We also have Dan Wolfe, MD, PhD. He's another

psychiatrist who oversees the telehealth program. And as a practicing psychiatrist, he's it.

Brain imager specialist in psychosis. And we also have Lisa Nelson. And she is a psychologist

who does recovery-oriented cognitive therapy and is supervising and seeing patients in this group.

Last of all, we have Joni Burns, nurse practitioner, psychiatric nurse practitioner,

who works for me, who is joining as well. So welcome guys. Thank you for coming.

Thank you. Thank you. So I thought I would start out and talk a little bit of just kind of ask,

like, what is a program for early psychosis? And how do you, like, what is the passion,

what is the sort of the vision behind this program? And what maybe some of the, just a little

of the research coming out of it on what you guys have been able to do?

So I think in other areas of the world, so in Australia and Europe, for many years,

there was an emphasis on trying to engage young people who were experiencing psychosis as early

as possible, and care with the recognition that the longer those symptoms go untreated,

the harder it is for people to recover. So we call that the duration of untreated psychosis.

So there was a tremendous amount of developments in programs which provided not just

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