EBB 354 - When Your OB Says "I Don't Know How to Support Upright Birth!" with EBB Childbirth Class Graduate Camilla Costa Goetz

Evidence Based Birth®

Rebecca Dekker

Pregnancy, Health & Fitness, Childbirth, Parenting, Birth, Medicine, Kids & Family, Doula, Obstetrician, Midwife

4.6 • 978 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Rebecca Dekker is joined by Camilla Costa Goetz, a graduate of the EBB Childbirth Class, to share her story of advocating for herself during labor. Camilla, a former fashion student turned full-time mom, opens up about navigating pregnancy with POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome), preparing for birth while her husband was away at Army Ranger School, and making the bold decision to push back against hospital norms to have the birth she wanted.

Tune in as Camilla and Rebecca discuss why self-advocacy is crucial in birth, how hospital policies can conflict with evidence-based care, and how standing firm can make all the difference in your birth experience. Learn tips for preparing your birth team, confidently saying no to interventions you don’t want, and making sure your birth preferences are honored—even in a hospital setting.

(02:11) How Camilla Discovered Evidence Based Birth® and Her Pregnancy Challenges

(05:11) Navigating Pregnancy with POTS and Health Concerns

(10:27) Preparing for Birth Without Her Husband by Her Side

(17:31) Planning for an Unmedicated Birth and Overcoming Fear of Hospitals

(23:06) The Problem with Hospital Birth Policies and Misinformed Providers

(26:13) How Camilla Switched Hospitals to Avoid an Unwanted C-Section

(34:26) The Surprising Lack of Support for Unmedicated Birth in the Hospital

(39:50) How Camilla Stood Her Ground in the Delivery Room

(45:57) Her Husband’s Emotional Reaction to Missing the Birth

(51:06) Postpartum Challenges, Military Life, and the Strength of Advocacy

For more information about Evidence Based Birth® and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker's book, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!" If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.

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0:00.0	Hi everyone. On today's podcast, we're going to talk with Camila Costa Gets about how to
0:05.6	advocate for yourself if your OB says they don't know how to support upright birth.
0:14.4	Welcome to the evidence-based birth podcast. My name is Rebecca Decker and I'm a nurse with my
0:19.6	PhD and the founder of evidence-based birth.
0:23.0	Join me each week as we work together to get evidence-based information into the hands of families and professionals around the world.
0:30.9	As a reminder, this information is not medical advice.
0:34.5	See eBbirth.com slash disclaimer for more details.
0:40.0	Hi, everyone, and welcome to today's episode of the evidence-based birth podcast.
0:44.6	Before we get started with today's guests, I wanted to let you know we've got something big
0:49.2	coming your way later this month at EBB. So, you've seen the claims, the so-called facts from influencers on social
0:57.2	media, but what if things aren't always what you've been led to believe? We're going to be diving deep
1:03.5	and unboxing a topic that's been clouded by misinformation. There are myths, stories, and the research evidence. It's almost time for us to
1:13.6	untangle it all. So stay tuned because we'll be revealing more on this topic next week,
1:18.6	and trust me, you don't want to miss this. Just make sure you're subscribed to our free
1:23.1	newsletter so you don't miss a thing. Go to eBbirth.com, our homepage at evidence-based birth,
1:29.3	and sign up for the free EBB newsletter so you don't miss out on the upcoming detangling
1:34.2	that will be undergoing with this fascinating topic. Now for today, I am so excited to welcome
1:39.7	a graduate of our EBB childbirth class, Camila Costa Gets. Camila studied fashion in college
1:45.9	and is now a full-time stay-at-home mom. She and her husband, who serves in the Army, are based
1:50.6	in Washington State, though they do move frequently. Camila spends most of her days baking and doing
1:56.2	craft projects with her toddler. She is a graduate of the evidence-based birth childbirth class, and she is here to share her birth story, and more specifically how she advocated her way through several challenging situations, including her husband being off the grid in Ranger's school towards the end of her pregnancy, dealing with pots, also known as postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, and a desire to give birth
2:19.9	in an upright position when her obstetrician was not experienced or comfortable in supporting
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