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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Economics Needs More Socioeconomic Diversity (with Anna Stansbury)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

This week, Nick and Goldy are joined by MIT economist Anna Stansbury to discuss the troubling lack of socioeconomic diversity within the economics profession. Stansbury discusses her research from a paper she co-authored with Robert Schultz titled “The Economics Profession’s Socioeconomic Diversity Problem”, which reveals that a strikingly low percentage of economists come from less-advantaged backgrounds. They have a thoughtful discussion about how that lack of diversity affects the profession's ability to address issues of power, inequality, and social problems, and they highlight the need for more diverse perspectives in the profession to ensure a more inclusive and equitable approach to economic analysis. They also point out that diversifying the field is not just a matter of equity but is crucial for fostering innovative solutions to economic challenges. Anna Stansbury is an economist and Assistant Professor of Work and Organization Studies at MIT Sloan School of Management. She is also a nonresident senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. Her research primarily focuses on labor economics, with a particular emphasis on wage inequality, labor market power, and the dynamics of worker power within organizations. She recently co-authored a paper with Robert Schutls, “Socioeconomic Diversity of Economics Ph.Ds,” published by the Journal of Economic Perspectives. Twitter: @annastansbury Further reading: Socioeconomic Diversity of Economics PhDs Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com Twitter: @PitchforkEcon, @NickHanauer, @civicaction Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Threads: pitchforkeconomics YouTube: @pitchforkeconomics Substack: The Pitch

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0:00.0

The rising inequality and growing political instability that we see today are the direct result of decades of bad economic theory.

0:10.0

It's time to build our economy from the bottom up and from the middle out, not the top down.

0:15.0

Middle out economics is the answer.

0:18.0

Because Wall Street didn't build this country.

0:20.0

Great middle class built this country.

0:22.0

The more the middle class thrives, the better the economy from the middle out.

0:42.0

Welcome to the show. build the economy from the middle out.

0:43.6

Welcome to the show.

1:00.0

One of the things we struggle with on this podnick is, well, I don't know how else to say it, but D.E.I. Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.

1:02.0

Yeah. This is an economics podcast, and we like to have a lineup of guests

1:09.7

who aren't just a bunch of old white men,

1:12.1

and it's hard because the economics profession if we're

1:17.1

talking to economists and we don't always talk to economists we probably talk to

1:21.5

economists less than most economics

1:23.6

podcasts.

1:24.8

It is a very non-diverse profession, academic economics.

1:31.9

That has been our sense intuitively, but it turns out

1:36.2

there's actually some data on this.

1:38.0

That's right.

1:38.6

Yeah, it's really interesting.

1:39.8

So today, we're going to talk to an economist who's going to talk about other economists.

1:47.0

If I think I put that right, Anna Stansbury is an economist and assistant professor of work in organization studies at the MIT

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