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Hello and welcome to episode 2258 of Effectively Wild

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I'm Meg Raleigh of Fangraphs, and I am joined by Ben Lindberg of the Ringer. Ben, how are you?

Doing all right. How are you?

Doing all right. Here we are. Yeah.

I have a question for you that we may have previously considered, but I can't recall, and this will segue into probably the biggest news item that we have to discuss.

Joshean, in his excellent joshian baseball newsletter, joshion.com, wrote this sentence,

The Astros downgrade from Kyle Tucker, a superstar who projects to be worth six wins and who is a free agent after 2025,

to a combination of Isok Paredes and Hayden Wisniewski, worth a combined four wins per steamer.

The word that I am asking you about is superstar.

Can we call a player a superstar if he has not actually attained superstardom, despite

playing at the level of a superstar?

No quibble with that.

But Kyle Tucker is in that zone where everyone says he's underrated and maybe he's reached the point at which, when we all say that, it's no longer true.

But I think we say that online, but I think the kind of casual mainstream baseball fan probably still is not as aware of Kyle Tucker as someone of his

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