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The Underworld Podcast

El Chapo's Boss & The Most Powerful Kingpin in Mexico: El Mayo

The Underworld Podcast

The Underworld Podcast

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.6871 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Everyone knows El Chapo, the infamous leader of the Sinaloa Cartel, one time most powerful kingpin that Mexico has ever seen. The man who revolutionized the Mexican cartels' drug trade. But...what if he never actually was at the top of the food chain? Some have long suspected that the head of the Sinaloa cartel has always been Ismael Zambada Garcia, also known as El Mayo. Nearing his 80's, little is known about his early life, but he's always managed to stay two steps ahead of the cartel wars and the police. He's never been arrested. He's always played the background, avoiding the spotlight and letting Chapo get the notoriety even though they cofounded and shared leadership of the Sinaloa Cartel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's 2017 and the man who many would call the most powerful drug trafficker in the world

0:05.8

has just been extradited to the United States of America.

0:08.9

Waukein El Chappo Guzman has recently been caught for the third time after escaping prison for the second time.

0:16.8

But this time, it seems like he's really finished.

0:20.4

There's no easy escape from US custody and if you listen to this podcast and you know have eyes and ears I assume you don't need to know who El Chappo is and how powerful he was

0:30.0

With him locked up the most powerful cartel in Mexico and the world likely, the

0:34.8

Siniloa cartel is supposedly without its leader. In the aftermath of his capture

0:40.0

and extradition, one of El Chappos lieutenants, his right-hand man, calls a meeting of the

0:45.1

top Cinelloa cartel leaders. This meeting is supposed to include a couple of El Chappo sons, called

0:51.4

El Chappitos, an elderly cartel leader in his 70s.

0:56.0

But on the way to the meeting, El Chappo's sons and a 71-year-old man are ambushed.

1:02.0

Chappo's sons are slightly wounded, but everyone survives.

1:05.9

It seems his lieutenant is making a play for control of the cartel, and maybe he thinks that

1:10.8

Chappo's kids, who grew up rich and spoiled Narco princess essentially

1:14.8

And this elderly man are out of their depth and don't have the heart and he can seize control with Guzman out of the picture

1:26.4

It's one of those things that just happens when a cartel kingpin goes down. But this guy, this lieutenant, he's very, very wrong.

1:30.4

And within months, he's arrested by the Mexican authorities supposedly with the help of

1:35.9

those other cartel players and soon after that his son flees to the US border to turn

1:41.5

himself in in fear of his life.

1:44.0

And you know, that's not the usual fear of your life in the cartel

1:46.6

wards. If you're willing to cross over into the US and

1:50.0

turn yourself in to the austere US justice system?

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