Hello beloved listeners. This is Adrian. I am excited to bring you the next of these episodes of election time with A and B,

is what I'm calling them and hopefully you found the conversation is really interesting so far. I have the next one that's coming here is with Ashley Woodward Henderson who is a leader that I deeply respect and trust and have worked with in many different

formations over the years.

Ashley has been a co-director at Highlander for years and years now and seeing up close and personal.

Some of the particular struggles that happen in the South in these moments,

this period, this era of racial awakening,

and I think gives a really nuanced perspective

on how we can move ourselves to this period of history.

So I hope that you find the conversation illuminating and educational and grounding as I did.

And yeah, there's more coming.

But yeah, tune in, tune in and pass it on to friends.

If you are finding these conversations useful,

share them with other people who could use some space

and some nuance at the balance of anti-fascism and anti-genocide organizing.

All right, love y'all.

Hi Ashley.

Mm-m-m-m-hmm.

Hello. Hi hi my love.

Ashley, you and I have known each other a grip.

A long time.

A long time and we've done different kinds of work together over the years but I would say the consistent

thread in that work is that you are someone who I'm like when I want the like no bullshit like what do we how do we get ourselves

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