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Backcountry Hunting Podcast

Elk Cartridges & Killing Ability with Colton Heward

Backcountry Hunting Podcast

Joseph von Benedikt

Backcountry, Rifle, Deer, Podcast, Elk, Mountain, Sports, Hunt, Wilderness, Cartridge, Hunting

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

What does it take to cleanly kill an elk? This episode, we sit down with professional western guide Colton Heward, who has seen hundreds of elk shot. Colton shares his opinion on the useful minimum energy required to kill big bulls quickly, and details the cartridges and bullets that work best.

We also swap stories about hunting anomalies; experiences that just shouldn't happen—but did. Antelope that shrug off perfect shots, giant bull elk that drop stone dead when shot with tiny bullets, and other true but disconcerting tales.

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0:00.0

Years ago in the high country and Colorado must have been about 9,500 feet elevation.

0:07.0

I was hunting with a small group among which was a 11 year old young man hunting with a 243. It was loaded with a hundred grain

0:17.2

Remington corelocked bullets and he took a shot at about 200 yards on a nice five-point bull elk standing on the rim of a canyon.

0:29.6

The bull basically dropped in his tracks, wobbled and dropped. So of course they celebrated

0:34.8

the dad took the rifle from the 11 year old young man, cleared the chamber, and in

0:40.5

fact I believe he unloaded the rifle and they went to collect their elk.

0:44.0

As they approached, so this is at least two or three minutes later,

0:48.0

this bull jumped up and bailed off into that canyon.

0:52.0

There's about a foot, a foot and a half of snow. It was a November hunt and that elk

0:58.0

went about 250 yards down off the side of that canyon before he stopped and basically died on his feet

1:05.3

bailing down into that deep canyon. There's a lot of deadfall on the side of that

1:10.1

canyon and it was steep. So we had to go down in there with packs and cut him up and then

1:16.0

carry him out in the dark in quite a lot of snow that was covering a lot of deadfalls. It was very treacherous footing, especially when you've got

1:25.1

60 to 100 pounds of meat on your back, right? And we expected that bullet placement must not have been as good as it looked when the bull first

1:37.5

dropped, but when we got there, he put his shot on the X.

1:41.7

It just hadn't killed that bull very quickly. Killed him, but it took four minutes maybe. In the last 30 seconds of that he was going full throttle downhill into rough country and we went from what should

1:56.6

have been a very easy recovery and some nice daylight photos to a rather strenuous and even somewhat dangerous, you know, for those of us that were a little bit older,

2:07.6

climbing out there in the snow, the dead fall, and so forth.

2:11.0

We got it done, it turned into a great adventure. The young man got his elk but it was a

2:17.6

classic case of not a big enough hammer to drive that nail in my opinion now most of you longtime

2:24.3

listeners know that I'm a proponent of using plenty of authority to hunt elk and

2:28.7

certain other species and we're going to talk about this topic today. I have Colton Heward here with me and he's been

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