The following is a conversation with Elon Musk.

He's a CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink,

and a co-founder of several other companies.

This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence

podcast.

The series includes leading researchers

in academia and industry, including CEOs and CTOs

of automotive, robotics, AI, and technology companies.

This conversation happened after the release

of the paper from our group at MIT

on driver-functional vigilance during use

of Tesla's autopilot.

The Tesla team reached out to me,

offering a podcast conversation with Mr. Musk.

I accepted with full control of questions

I could ask in the choice of what is released publicly.

I ended up editing out nothing of substance.

I've never spoken with Elon before this conversation,

publicly or privately.

Neither he nor his companies have any influence

on my opinion nor on the rigor and integrity

of the scientific method that I practice

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