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Astrology Podcast. This episode is recorded on Friday, December 8th, 2017,

starting just after 1126 a.m. in Denver, Colorado, and this is the 137th episode of the show.

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In this episode I'm going to be talking with Janzart about Elsbeth Eberton, who was a famous German

astrologer who lived in the early 20th century and was one of the first prominent female

astrologers in modern times. Hey Jen, welcome to the show. Thanks Chris, thanks

for having me. Yeah, I'm excited to finally have you on the show to talk about this topic.

So part of the genesis of this episode is that, you know, back in episode

I talked about some of the research that I did or have done into the earliest female astrologers and found that

Hypatia was probably the earliest woman that we can name who probably had some astrological training, but it's not really until the 20th century that we start to see many leading women emerge in the astrological community and one of the first notable figures was

this interesting figure from Germany named Elsbeth Eberton and you are actually

somebody who specializes in or is focused quite a bit of research on her work, right?

Yeah, yep. I've done some MA and some of my PhD research on her work.

Okay, so you actually went to school and got two degrees where you actually focused a large part of your

research or some portion of your research on the life of this this particular astrologer?

Well I found Elsbis's work while I was at Berkeley in my German PhD. She wrote a novel called Mars in the House of Death that really was the beginning of my

relationship with her work. At the time I was in a German literature department so I was discouraged from looking at any technical

manuscripts but she had written a novel so I decided that I would get that novel and

read it and figure out how she was using astrology and fiction and that was kind of the beginning of where I worked on her,

but also sort of in a wider context,

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