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This Day in Esoteric Political History

Emancipation, Of Sorts (1863) w/ Jonathan Lande

This Day in Esoteric Political History

Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia

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4.6982 Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

It's January 4th. This day, in 1863, Abraham Lincoln had issued the Emancipation Proclamation, freeing enslaved Americans in the South. It also freed up Black soldiers to fight for the Union army -- but many of them found conditions in the military restrictive and oppressive as well.

Jody, Niki, and Kellie are joined by Jonathan Lande of Purdue University to discuss what life was like for Black soldiers -- and why many of them chose to escape from the army as well.

Jonathan's latest book is called "Freedom Soldiers" -- it's available now!

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia.

0:07.0

My name is Jody Avergan.

0:09.0

And welcome to a new year, our first proper episode of the New Year.

0:14.0

Happy New Year to everyone.

0:15.0

And let's go to the new year of 1863, where January 1st brought a monumental political development, the Emancipation

0:24.1

Proclamation. Abraham Lincoln declaring that all enslaved people in the rebellious southern

0:28.7

states should henceforth be free. Of course, the implications of this are enormous. We've touched on all

0:34.1

sorts of elements and wrinkles and fallout from the Emancipation Proclamation on this show.

0:39.4

One specific element is that it also allowed black men to join the Union Army.

0:45.0

That story is fairly well recounted.

0:47.1

Of course, there's that movie Glory, which tells the story of one of the first black infantry units.

0:52.5

And no surprise, it is a little more complicated of a story

0:55.5

than that feel-good heroic tale that showed up in a movie like that.

0:59.0

For one, black soldiers who escaped slavery and joined the army

1:02.2

found the conditions within the army to be coercive, racist, and exploitative,

1:07.0

and many of them ended up leaving the army to take care of family,

1:10.0

escape abuse, and for other reasons.

1:12.4

And that dynamic is the subject of a new book from Jonathan Landy, who is assistant professor of history at Purdue.

1:19.5

The book is called Freedom Soldiers, The Emancipation of Black Soldiers in Civil War camps, courts, and prisons.

1:25.2

Professor Landy, Jonathan, welcome to the show.

1:27.5

First guest of 2025.

1:29.0

No one can take that away from you.

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