Emotional Labor with Rachel Monroe and Ash Compton of Bad Therapist

You're Wrong About

Sarah Marshall

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4.6 • 23K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

What is "emotional labor," and why is it probably not what your boyfriend accuses you of making him do when you want him to go to Ikea with you? Psychotherapist Ash Compton and journalist Rachel Monroe are here to tell the tale of how the term sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild coined—in her 1983 book The Managed Heart—has come to mean, well, almost everything. How is the term still useful? How can we use therapy language as a tool for growth or an excuse for avoiding it? And whose job is i...

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0:00.0	Let a woman take a sick day for God's sake.
0:13.7	Welcome to Your Wrong About. I'm Sarah Marshall, and today we have a Valentine's Day special of sorts with the hosts of bad therapist,
0:25.3	Rachel Monroe and Ash Compton.
0:27.7	I always like to try and do a Valentine's Day episode, although normally it's a bit
0:33.1	tough to remember that there are other holidays coming up after Christmas.
0:37.3	But I was really thrilled to
0:39.1	have Rachel and Ash on this week to talk about emotional labor, because I think that really there's
0:48.2	nothing more romantic than learning effective communication. And that's what the story gets into a little bit today.
0:56.0	Rachel is a journalist and has been on quite a few previous episodes of the show.
1:01.0	Ash is a psychotherapist, and about their show, they write,
1:05.0	At a moment when therapy speak has made it into the mainstream,
1:09.0	and trauma is a national preoccupation, I wonder why.
1:13.2	It's high time to examine the shadow side of mental health. And that's part of what we're
1:19.1	trying to do together today. I had surprisingly a really good time. If you like bonus episodes,
1:25.3	we have some for you over on Patreon and Apple Plus subscriptions.
1:29.8	The one we have out right now, I really adore, especially.
1:33.3	It is with Sarah Archer, our home economics correspondent, and we're talking about Peg Bracken's 1960 masterpiece, the I Hate to Cookbook, which is for people who hate to cook and also for people
1:46.0	who don't hate it or maybe hate it a little bit more than they were willing to admit. It was a
1:52.1	lovely episode for me to get to record with her to talk about what it means to try and feed
1:57.1	ourselves when everything is scary. I think we came up with some solutions,
2:01.4	and it's also got recipes in it. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for being with us.
2:06.9	Thank you for listening. Please take care of yourself this week, and here is your episode. Welcome to Your Wrong About the podcast where we talk about useful ideas that perhaps become so diluted and confusing that they are no longer valuable, especially when people's boyfriends start using them. And I am joined today
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