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Scamfluencers

ENCORE: Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker: The God Fraud | Part 2

Scamfluencers

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.17K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In the second part of this two-part epic, Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker go their separate ways and carve out very different paths — but they both still love being in the spotlight. Tammy becomes a fixture on daytime and reality TV, while Jim gets out of prison and goes right back to televangelizing. This time, he’s embracing a whole new scheme: shilling products for the apocalypse.

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0:00.0

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0:04.7

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0:10.3

Sarah, do you have a favorite camp figure?

0:17.2

Like, you know what John Water says in that Simpsons episode?

0:20.2

The tragically ludicrous, the ludicrously tragic?

0:23.4

Yeah, I mean, I always go back to that Carly Clause tweet before she goes to the Met Gala,

0:29.4

where she's holding up the mirror and going, looking camp right in the eye, only to later show she did not dress Camp at all.

0:36.8

Like, no, terrible outfit, terrible outfit.

0:39.3

And to me, that was camp.

0:41.0

Well, I've always thought of you as my favorite camp figure.

0:44.6

You're like my Barbara Streisand.

0:46.7

Like you're notoriously difficult and everyone on the show is afraid of you.

0:50.0

And that's why they pay me the big bucks.

0:54.2

Well, as ever, I ask because today,

0:56.9

we're looking at how two people transform themselves

0:59.4

after public failures,

1:01.2

namely how one of them turned towards the tragic

1:03.5

and another towards the ludicrous.

1:06.2

Put on your best non-waterproof mascara, Sarah.

1:09.0

It's time we finish the ballad of Tammy Fay.

1:14.7

It's October 5th, 1989 in Charlotte, North Carolina. It's been two months since Jim Baker's

1:20.9

trial started. The trial has been plagued by delays, including a devastating hurricane.

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