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Dear Therapists with Lori Gottlieb and Guy Winch

Encore: S03 Ep. 5 - Catherine’s Secret Revenge

Dear Therapists with Lori Gottlieb and Guy Winch

iHeartPodcasts

Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

This week we’re in session with Catherine, a seemingly polite woman who creates elaborate revenge fantasies about the people in her life. She wants to understand why she does this–and how she can stop.

 

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0:00.0

I'm Lori Gottlieb. I'm the author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, and I write the Dear Therapist Advice column for The Atlantic.

0:10.5

And I'm Guy Wynch. I'm the author of Emotional First Aid, and I write the Dear Guy Advice column for Ted.

0:16.6

And this is Dear Therapists. Each week, we invite you into a real session where we help people confront their biggest problems

0:23.6

and then give them actionable advice and hear about the changes they've made in their lives.

0:27.6

So sit back and welcome to today's session.

0:31.6

This week, a woman who has elaborate revenge fantasies about the people in her life

0:36.6

wants to understand why she does

0:38.4

this and how she can stop.

0:40.6

I have no training in how to have a positive conversation.

0:45.0

I think it feels shameful as a grown woman that I can't defend myself.

0:49.9

And so I take all of that hurt and I channel it towards these letters.

0:55.0

First, a quick note, dear therapists is for informational purposes only, does not constitute

1:00.1

medical or psychological advice and is not a substitute for professional health care advice,

1:04.7

diagnosis or treatment.

1:06.7

Always seek the advice of your physician, mental health professional, or other qualified

1:10.7

health provider, with any questions you may have regarding a medical or psychological condition.

1:16.0

By submitting a letter, you are agreeing to let IHeart media use it in part or in full, and we may edit it for length and clarity.

1:22.4

In the sessions, you'll hear, all names have been changed for the privacy of our guests.

1:27.9

So, hey, Guy.

1:29.2

Hi, Lori.

1:30.3

What do we have going on in our mailbox this week?

1:32.6

Today we have a rather interesting letter, which I will just read, and you will see why.

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