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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 1166 | Ex-Cultist Gives Harrowing Insight into Mysterious '2x2' Cult | Guest: Elizabeth Coleman

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Blaze Podcast Network

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, News Commentary

4.619.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Today, we sit down with Elizabeth Coleman, author and former cult member, to hear her story and testimony of how she came to Christ. Elizabeth tells us about growing up in the cult with no name — but one that ex-members call the Two-by-Twos — and how she was conditioned from a young age to fear Christianity and other Christians. She shares how members of the Two-by-Twos believe that their beliefs are the only way to Jesus, but in fact, the cult was started in the late 1800s, not the first century. Elizabeth tells us how she met her husband at 17 and slowly started to question her beliefs throughout university, ultimately leaving the cult for the true gospel of Jesus Christ. Share the Arrows 2025 is on October 11 in Dallas, Texas! Go to sharethearrows.com for tickets now! Buy Elizabeth's book, "Cult to Christ: The Church With No Name and the Legacy of the Living Witness Doctrine": https://a.co/d/gzefsrw Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (00:49) Elizabeth Coleman introduction (01:50) The “Two-by-Twos” cult (22:24) Growing up in the group (26:58) Leadership and rules in the group (34:57) Elizabeth meeting her husband (43:03) Hearing the Gospel (46:09) Deciding to leave the group (56:47) Evangelizing to family (01:03:20) Abuse allegations within the cult --- Today's Sponsors: America's Christian Credit Union — Switch to America's Christian Credit Union today for faith-aligned banking with exceptional rates and nationwide access. Visit https://www.americaschristiancu.com/allie to get started! Field of Greens — Use code ALLIE at FieldofGreens.com for 20% off your first order of superfood supplement for better health and energy! --- Related Episodes: Ep 1154 | Ex-New Ager Reveals Cults’ Secret Invasion of the Church | Guest: Melissa Dougherty https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1154-ex-new-ager-reveals-cults-secret-invasion-of/id1359249098?i=1000698790509 Ep 880 | The Truth About Scientology | Guests: Jeremiah Roberts & Andrew Soncrant of 'Cultish' (Part One) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-880-the-truth-about-scientology-guests-jeremiah/id1359249098?i=1000629423154 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The cult with no name. Elizabeth Coleman left a highly restrictive secret religious group in

0:09.3

Australia over 30 years ago. And her testimony is incredibly powerful and encouraging as now we are

0:17.8

seeing documentaries and all kinds of testimonies explode about the abuse that has

0:24.5

occurred for decades in this cult. You will love Elizabeth's story and learn so much from it.

0:31.9

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0:51.9

Elizabeth, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. If you could tell everyone who you are and

0:52.7

what you do. Okay, my name is Elizabeth

0:55.5

Coleman. I'm from Canberra Australia. I'm a school administrator. I've been a Christian for about

1:03.1

30 years and came out of a very high control sect cult group that I grew up and was born into

1:10.4

third and fourth generation from both my

1:13.4

parents' sides. And what is the name of the cult? So this is the controversial part. They

1:19.0

officially have never given themselves a name because they believe they are the only way they don't

1:25.4

need a name. And so they have never officially given themselves a name.

1:29.5

We as ex-members have called them two-by-toos and we now officially call them that. It's not

1:35.0

derogatory. It's just descriptive of the way that their ministry works going out in pairs,

1:40.7

a little bit like the J-Ws or the Mormons, but probably a little bit more hardcore.

1:45.7

So we call them the two-by-toes.

1:47.1

They would deny having a name.

1:49.1

Okay.

1:49.6

So take us back.

1:50.9

You say that you were born into this kind of nameless cult.

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