This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

My guest today is Christopher Cruden.

He is a repeat guest.

He came on about 10 years ago, a trend following trader who specializes in the currencies and gold. A really down-to-earth,

pragmatic sage, a guy who knows what's up, who's seen a little bit of everything, somebody who you will enjoy listening to.

Without any further delay from me, let's jump right into my conversation today with Christopher Crudin.

I hope you enjoy. You were saying about podcasting, as I said, I generally have not done the video stuff.

You see that it's like, hey, most people just don't, they listen.

That's right.

A lot of people, myself included, don't have time to sit and watch a podcast where basically you're looking at a talking head.

It's more of a radio thing.

You've got it on the background and you're attuned well enough to pick up the interesting points.

I don't think it's a constructive use of most people's time to sit and watch yet another television screen.

The audio version is just perfect. Yeah, and I do a little

producing, and I've told people this recently, just kind of explained how I do things. I'll take out

pause words. Any of us, you, me, whoever has a bunch of pause words or something. I would say this,

though, generally I used to have to maybe 10 years ago or eight years ago, maybe somebody would

give a whole paragraph of something that said nothing. I would cut that. But generally these

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