This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

My guest today is David Stockman.

He is a former congressman.

He was in the Reagan administration.

He knows something about politics, economics, government. Actually, he knows more than something.

He knows a hell of a lot. His book, Trump's War on Capitalism. Now, don't let that title throw you.

Yes, David is not supporting Trump in the next election.

He's supporting RFK Jr.

However, you're going to find that the way David thinks, the perspectives he has,

you're going to find yourself generally aligned.

I know I did.

Again, people make different choices. They have different decisions,

different perspectives on who they think would be the best next president of America. And David has his choice. But his perspectives on what goes on behind the scenes, the system, the deep state,

all that kind of stuff. we're on the same page.

Without any further delay from me, I hope you enjoy this conversation with David Stockman.

Here's where I want to jump in today. Let me just start with the basics. It really seems like to me it'd be a fair appraisal, a fair way to say it, that you really despise Donald Trump.

Fair? Partly fair. I do admire one thing and one thing alone. He's got all the right enemies. By that, I mean

the mainstream media, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, the Washington establishment,

even the leadership of both parties, the uniparty. The fact that they were all against him

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